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ABC Debate (at least I think it was ABC)
Jan. 5th, 2008 11:07 pmDude. Hilary sucked. Like, wow. I started watching late, so I apparently missed the part when Edwards called her an "agent of the status quo" and she flipped out, but I did catch her answer about her likeability and such. She was just... whoa. That was almost a temper tantrum there. She took a lot of jabs at Obama as well, a bit too many for anyone's liking--came off as extremely defensive rather than offensive.
I think she just bombed that debate. Maybe even her chances at winning New Hampshire altogether. That was a shitacular showing on her part. Seriously, shut up about all the stuff Bill Clinton did. Those weren't your accomplishments. I'm not about to vote someone because they're married to a previous president. That's like going to the doctor's wife just because she's married to a doctor.
ETA: Saw it on youtube. Her answer to the likeability question was worse imo, but she did sort of... that wasn't presidential. That was "I did this, I did that, vote me because I'm entitled to being president". Basically claimed Bill Clinton's changes as her own, rambled about how supposedly awesome she was. Bad showing. Real bad showing. Edwards looked like he was about to burst out laughing through the entire thing. The only way this can spin good for her is if people consider it showing her "true" self. Of course, in that case, her "true" self is a whining prat.
Obama... is good if he has a clue what he wants to talk about. He either dives into an inspiring and awesome little tangent on change (I liked the "Words do inspire" chain) and stuff like that with no substance at all OR he talks substance and it's boring as hell, though other people do care. He's really a bad debater though.
Edwards was solid. I WISH I SAW THE STATUS QUO BIT. I think he needs to shut up about the middle class and healthcare, but he's an excellent debater. You'd think he was trying for a Obama/Edwards ticket, but honestly? Were I him, I'd just be pushing Hilary's buttons for fun. He knows he's out of the running, so why not, right?
Richardson... I'd vote for him, you know, if Obama weren't around and I thought he stood a chance. I think he came out on top in this debate. Very rational, very reasonable, experienced yet not Hilary Clinton, very much attuned to the idea of change, and presidential, you know? I favor Obama/Richardson. If people say a Black/Hispanic ticket won't work... well, won't know until you try, right?
I think she just bombed that debate. Maybe even her chances at winning New Hampshire altogether. That was a shitacular showing on her part. Seriously, shut up about all the stuff Bill Clinton did. Those weren't your accomplishments. I'm not about to vote someone because they're married to a previous president. That's like going to the doctor's wife just because she's married to a doctor.
ETA: Saw it on youtube. Her answer to the likeability question was worse imo, but she did sort of... that wasn't presidential. That was "I did this, I did that, vote me because I'm entitled to being president". Basically claimed Bill Clinton's changes as her own, rambled about how supposedly awesome she was. Bad showing. Real bad showing. Edwards looked like he was about to burst out laughing through the entire thing. The only way this can spin good for her is if people consider it showing her "true" self. Of course, in that case, her "true" self is a whining prat.
Obama... is good if he has a clue what he wants to talk about. He either dives into an inspiring and awesome little tangent on change (I liked the "Words do inspire" chain) and stuff like that with no substance at all OR he talks substance and it's boring as hell, though other people do care. He's really a bad debater though.
Edwards was solid. I WISH I SAW THE STATUS QUO BIT. I think he needs to shut up about the middle class and healthcare, but he's an excellent debater. You'd think he was trying for a Obama/Edwards ticket, but honestly? Were I him, I'd just be pushing Hilary's buttons for fun. He knows he's out of the running, so why not, right?
Richardson... I'd vote for him, you know, if Obama weren't around and I thought he stood a chance. I think he came out on top in this debate. Very rational, very reasonable, experienced yet not Hilary Clinton, very much attuned to the idea of change, and presidential, you know? I favor Obama/Richardson. If people say a Black/Hispanic ticket won't work... well, won't know until you try, right?